The growing rift and meltdown between Robb Wolf, Greg Everett, and CrossFit HQ…
Robb Wolf’s take:
“I told him to take my high-paying nutrition gig and stick it up his ass.
At this Dave becomes dead quite and just looks back and forth at Greg and I. Then he starts repeating “you guys are done…you guys are done, you drew your line, you are done…” Imagine an all-powerful despotic leader of an authoritarian regime ranting over two subjects he is about to execute. That’s the flavor of this professional exchange.”
Greg Everett’s (Catalyst Athletics) story:
“Castro has made the point that I “make fun of CrossFit”, and this demonstrates that I hate CrossFit (he offered to prove it to me by showing me my articles… guess I should read those). I do make fun of CrossFit. I also make fun of myself. Castro is not the first person to call me a fat fuck—I call myself fat all the time, because I am a fat fuck relative to what I was prior to moving up two weight classes.
My poking fun at CrossFit is entirely good-natured, and this was apparently understood by those in attendance at the seminar, as my jokes were invariably followed by quite a bit of laughter. If I had wanted to offend CrossFitters or Dave Castro personally, I assure you I could have come up with some guaranteed methods. In fact, I have intentionally withheld quite a bit of information for the sake of not further inflaming and offending.”
Freddy Camacho’s (CrossFit One World) take:
“About Robb’s post. I love Robb and Nicki. They are good folks. I’ve spent time on vacation with them. Here is what I can tell you. I was there during the lecture incidents described by Robb. Robb’s account of what happened was accurate. Regardless of how any comments were perceived, I don’t think someone of Dave Castro’s stature in CrossFit INC should have said what he said, but that is my opinion, and I am entitled to my opinion.”
Russell Berger’s account:
“At the end of day one, the CrossFit Central staff put us through a fun, short workout. Thiel and Kepler moved through their staff, motivating and coaching CrossFitters. The rest of the Summit staff retreated to their own separate strength workout, ironically right after the emphasis on quality training.
On Saturday, Robb’s nutrition lecture covered the basics of indoctrinating new clients into the Paleo diet, and mentioned a number of helpful tools like Affiliate challenges, before and after pictures, and monthly nutrition classes to use for motivating clients. He also gave a number of examples of elite athletes who performed on an “Unweighed and unmeasured Paleo diet”.”
Regardless of who is right or wrong in this battle- it’s unfortunate that it’s coming down to name calling and screaming matches. I know and am friends with most of the people involved in this latest scuffle and they all have made hefty contributions of their own specialty within CrossFit.
There have been a few updates from other sides in this debate:
C.J. Martin (CrossFit Invictus):
“Robb never attacked the “Zone Diet,” he explained that in his experience athletes saw tremendous benefits on an unmeasured diet that focused on food quality, and if quality alone was not optimizing performance he would begin weighing and measuring food to further improve an athlete’s results. Robb’s suggested best approach to nutrition is to “eat meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar.” Apparently this prescription is no longer acceptable to CFHQ, and Robb is no longer welcome.”
Nicki Violetti (CrossFit NorCal) weighs in:
“Fear is in not helping. Fear is not open to constructive criticism. Fear is unwillingness to look at things objectively. Fear is hiding weaknesses to avoid addressing them. Fear turns your head to avoid looking at the spinach.
The Black Box Summit was born entirely of LOVE.”
Dutch Lowy commented on his blog:
“I support and back up everything robb stated. It was totally un professional by castro and as such I asked him to leave so there wouldn’t be any further disruption. I’m not sure what I will do personally. The summit will continue to provide the community with really fucking good info. Count on that.”
The drama doesn’t matter much to me, but it’s interesting to see how it all plays out. Either way, it’s Thanksgiving time! Robb is moving on just fine, and he has just recorded Episode 3 of his excellent new podcast.
Update 2:
I came across this post about Level I CrossFit Certification compared to the Elements that is given at CrossFit NYC for new members and the ensuing drama in the comments. This back and forth is from last year, but it’s even more hilarious than the latest contest. Read…
Update 3, courtesy of Aimee Anaya, via the comment box:
Aimee directed me to a link to CrossFit Performance. Ben Kelly was there at the Black Box Summit and offers his insight into why things went down the way they did:
“What has since occurred has been festering for a while. From where I sit the top honchos in each specialist division of CF are being shafted up the jacksie(arse). Rip pulled out because he got no respect from HQ. Brian Mckenzie and CF Endurance have been killing since hitting the scene producing quality athletes , a killer program and building a formidable niche market. How do you think he felt when Nicholas Romanov(the pose guy) starts doing seminars with HQ ’s blessing and popping up on mainsite? How do ya think BMack felt? What about Barry Sears doing seminars and getting airtime on CF main page? How do ya think Robb felt? Not too bloody good I can tell ya!”
On November 5th of this year, Fort Hood army base in Texas was the site of the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11. A deadly shooting took place in a pre-deployment processing center. The alleged shooter, Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan opened fire on unarmed soldiers and civilians alike. When the attack ended, the shooter was down-paralyzed. Thirteen were dead, with another 30 wounded.
Four of those killed in the attack belonged to Lumberjack CrossFit, a military affiliate on the base. The toll on the families, friends, and the unit has been especially hard.
On December 5th, CrossFit will post the Workout of the Day known as the Lumberjack 20, in honor of those men and women who were killed. It will be the first Hero WOD for multiple heroes. Hundreds of affiliates, and no doubt thousands of CrossFitters, will hit the workout at max intensity throughout the day, thinking of those brave soldiers.
CrossFit has set up a fundraiser for the families of the fallen, as well as those thirty wounded. Many are still in intensive care. Many donations have come in, and every little bit will no doubt be helpful. Right now, the total of the donations is under $14,000.
This is unacceptable.
I have seen CrossFit, and more specifically, the CrossFit community do amazing things for our military. I know from personal experience. I am thankful every day for Greg Glassman’s tremendous gift to establish CrossFit Camp Pendleton. He then went on to establish Operation Phoenix, selling t-shirts to support more gear drops throughout the Marine Corps, and now the Army. That fund is almost at $200,000 right now.
I’m not going to ask that you donate. I only ask that you visit the donation website and take a look. Take a look at the workout. Take a look at some of the stories. After that, if you’d like to donate, then it was your choice, and I think it will be a good one.
You don’t get anything for this. You don’t get a t-shirt for your donation. You don’t get a certificate. The only thing you get is the pride in knowing that you did just a small part to help a family in time of crisis. I can tell you from my own experience that little things matter. When I was deployed overseas and received a letter for “Any Marine” from a little kid thanking me for my service, and wishing me luck, I was choked up. It gave me hope, pride, and overwhelming optimism that people cared about me and what I was doing.
I’ve registered for my own fundraising page here. I would like to raise at least $250.
When the donations are finalized and CrossFit gives it to the families and victims of Fort Hood, they too will know that feeling that I felt.
Their tears might subside for a moment when they realize that this community known as CrossFit, like many other communities around the United States, will stand behind them and hold them up in their hour of need.
This quote is from the movie A Few Good Men, but it really applies to all the services:
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